tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post6018741687414518798..comments2022-11-02T05:46:59.157-04:00Comments on Singing & Slaying: Ten Quotes: Escape from Reason by Francis SchaefferPeter Joneshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07169921605180545217noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-38030476035450087142015-02-26T15:51:21.377-05:002015-02-26T15:51:21.377-05:00Many thanks, I will keep an eye out for it.
JeffMany thanks, I will keep an eye out for it.<br /><br />JeffJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11572100441922150371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-17311480702992019082015-02-26T15:20:21.665-05:002015-02-26T15:20:21.665-05:00Jeff, I will post Bavinck's final paragraph on...Jeff, I will post Bavinck's final paragraph on how he sees dogmatics being unified. You can judge from that what he is aiming at. It might clear up some misunderstanding. It is too long to put in a comment, so I will put on the blog. Your final comment even sounds like Bavinck in some ways. In Christ, PeterPeter Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07169921605180545217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-65411551695829713382015-02-26T13:01:24.963-05:002015-02-26T13:01:24.963-05:00Peter, one last comment. You said, "Christ a...Peter, one last comment. You said, "Christ as unifying factor is rooted in the truth about God and man as fallen."<br /><br />Man's fall is part of God's design in His work to reveal the kind of God that He is - and in this context, revealing Himself as the kind of God that will die for His enemies. <br /><br />Redemption then is one of the products of God's Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11572100441922150371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-40103592299035717872015-02-26T12:48:22.936-05:002015-02-26T12:48:22.936-05:00Paul did say that he became all things to all men,...Paul did say that he became all things to all men, that he might win some. 1 Cor. 9:22Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11572100441922150371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-6291971554681135142015-02-26T12:45:07.945-05:002015-02-26T12:45:07.945-05:00Thanks Peter for the followup. As challenging as t...Thanks Peter for the followup. As challenging as these discussions can be, I truly appreciate the dialogue.<br /><br />My observation of Bavinck’s statement is that he is missing what Christ said about Himself in relation to God speaking through the prophets (John 5:39-40, Luke 24:27, John 5:46), and he does not reference the fact that Jesus was active in creation (Hebrews 1:2, Colossians 1:15-17Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11572100441922150371noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-33418993782025322842015-02-26T10:46:10.609-05:002015-02-26T10:46:10.609-05:00Jeff, See the Bavinck quote below for some of my t...Jeff, See the Bavinck quote below for some of my thoughts on Christ as unifying principle of theology. I am not saying you are saying what he is refuting, but I thought I would throw the quote out there anyway. <br /><br />http://www.kuyperian.com/peter-jones-why-christ-cannot-be-the-organizing-principle-of-dogmatics/Peter Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07169921605180545217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-81982737450073908432015-02-26T10:41:53.362-05:002015-02-26T10:41:53.362-05:00Jeff, Christ as unifying factor is rooted in the t...Jeff, Christ as unifying factor is rooted in the truth about God and man as fallen. Without a personal God who speaks we do not have the truth of man's creation, fall, true moral guilt and God's justice/holiness, which required Christ's sacrifice on the cross. Schaeffer believes that adequate presentation of Christ crucified requires an understanding of how our culture communicates. IPeter Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07169921605180545217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3193266093673235720.post-80058028784154029052015-02-26T10:14:13.256-05:002015-02-26T10:14:13.256-05:00I really like the reference to "true truth&qu...I really like the reference to "true truth", man being the center, etc. So true.<br /><br />Where I run into problems with Schaffer (Pearcey, Colson as well) is that quite often he does not root his arguments in Christ and His cross. The goal of "reclaiming culture" is out of touch with the gospel. Did Jesus come to reclaim culture? No, He came to reveal the glory of the Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11572100441922150371noreply@blogger.com